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 1   Laser / Fall '09 Wrap-up  on: Oct 20th, 2009, 12:26pm
Started by alrussellvt | Post by alrussellvt
Well, It's official. Full season results here:

http://sites.google.com/site/mbbclaserfleet/

Christine Neville and Robin Doyle had their final match-up, and Christine handled the match race aspect like an old Pro, covering/smothering Robin and taking the Season Champs as No. 1. And the "Men" were just part of the scenery it seems. So, we've modified the Trophy to cover this new scenario. I'll show a pic after it's more publicly presented. We do have to give full credit to Christine, as it's not possible to just slide into First, after 63 races, most of which had 14+ on the start line, and sometimes up to 19. Besides having that lanky, light physique that is expected to work in our relatively light evening venue, Christine committed to Lasers, got her gear in shape, and commuted to Newport, RI to frostbite with some of the best there is all Winter. Time in the boat is hard to beat, no matter how talented or experienced you are (and recent time seems to outweigh time spent 10-20 years ago :-0).

Robin Doyle deserves credit too, coming in a very close Second. Her strong leadership all Summer showed us how dedication pays off, even though that is her busy season at work at ISS. She has been consistant and came closer than ever to taking the Season Champs trophy. 11 points behind, after 63 races, works out to .175 points per race. As most of you know, that's about 1/4 of a boatlength at the first weather mark, on average. That's the difference between one good roll tack, and a mediocre roll tack, per race.

Mike Hoffman, out favorite Badger (UWis) came in Third, after a valiant effort. Pretty good effort for a guy with 2 kids, a job, and a power boat, all distracting him from Lasers. (Contact him if you want to buy a power boat!) BTW, UWis is hosting the ICSA Nationals this Spring.

Dave Klebanoff finished fourth, and did an admirable job of scorekeeping all year. He eventually worked out a way to beat the MBBC password game (or should I say the lack of a password). Sign him up for next year I say, as scorekeeper. And check out that website mentioned above. Good place for your latest pics, cool ideas, race analysis. It's something we've needed, now send him stuff to fill it. I cc'ed him, so that you all can bookmark his email address, and send him pics and stuff.

Wrap-up - 63 races is actually kind of light for us, as we've had 90+ a few years ago. We did lose 3 nights to T-storms and rain in July, but I think we also did a lot more twice arounds than in previous years. The fleet's skills grew , resulting in lots of overlaps on the first time around, so that second time around makes it better, giving a much better chance to resolve who was fastest at that particular time/condition. There also seems to have been almost no super light crapshoots, as the wind died for the night. Lots of pretty fair medium hiking conditions instead. 38 Skippers came out at least once, and 14 of them won a race. Also, 24 MBBC Club members own a laser now.

MBBC Laser Alumni are spreading the Word! Former MBBCer Geoff Hurwitch followed his employer (Rossignol) to Park City a couple of years ago. Something about powder and sunshine left him a little bored. Well, real men/women ski Ice and race Lasers, we all know that. So, anyway, he decided he just had to race lasers, so he looked around Utah, and concluded that he had to build his own fleet to match his Burlap/MBBC quality of life, since Utah Powder alone doth not make the Man! So, now he has found some man made lake and gets 20+ laser Tuesday night starts, with a total of 45+ boats in his racks. And since he's a graduate of the Rossignol School of Promotion, he's been written up in Sailing World, Scuttebutt and others as the Guru of sailing in the Powder Capital of the World. Check out SW Oct or Scuttlebutt's report of their 30 boat Masters No-coast Champs (where MBBC and even your's truly gets a mention)

http://forum.sailingscuttlebutt.com/cgi-bin/gforum.cgi?post=8391

Speaking of Alumni: The College racing scene has really noticed UVM. Their Co-eds are consistently ranked Top 15 (as high as 10 recently), and their teams depth is equally as important. Sailgroove.org is even attending their practices with video. Pete and Conner are helping to build the rep, as every weekend they send teams in 3-4 directions to race. Their women have even started to make some moves in a brutally tough NE circuit, and even at an Intersectional at Navy last week. UVM Coed's were ranked 14th nationally last week. Climbing from there is exponentially hard, as they race against the best there is in NEISA.

Brown's women are holding on to 3rd, and Coed's 4th. St Mary's is steady in the top 7-8, both Coed, and Women. Allyson is abroad til Dec. but she says hello to everyone from Mombasa or Nairobi or whereever is next..

Anyone else have any news to share?

http://www.sailingworld.com/ranks and http://www.sailgroove.org/ (great videos!)

MBBC Awards Dinner is Oct 24, sort of right after Club Closing.. Info attached, if anyone is interested in attending. Rsvp deadline is TODAY, and the Ship casts off promptly. Info attached (I think?)

And a Thank you has to go out to Sarah, for being there every single night, and delivering really good lines/courses/results. There is no question in my mind, that the single best RC work of the year at MBBC has to go out to her, and her numerous helpers. She has helped us to bring MBBC laser racing to a higher level, and it's true that if you don't even notice the RC when racing, then they have done a great job, even with 18+ boats on the line. Additional thanks to Scott Beaudin and Al Baker for believing in my rather odd concept of having our own RC boat, and agreeing to partner up. The Robalo has worked out well, for Lasers as well as for our own use for other things, such as RCing the Lightnings, etc. Thanks guys! The Lightnings are racing this weekend, and Sarah and I are RC, so let us know if you want to help out.

Club Membership - Yes, there is a waiting list for full club membership, so if you're thinking that you might want to join someday, then get on the list NOW, as it might take 3-4 years. There is info at mbbc-vt.org.

Club Closing is October 24 also. Come over at 9 AM-1 if you want to offer some help. There is no boat storage at the Club, so make sure yours are gone either by then, or a few weeks afterwards. If you want anything from the inside racks for Fall or Winter sailing etc Get it by the 24th as the building gets boarded up, and I haven't got the key.

New sailors - You bet, as I have 2 newbees actively looking for boats now. Let me know if you want to upgrade, and I'll connect you to them. The ex-World's boat are available from various sources at 4600. which is a great buy for a boat used only 5-10 days. They have new dolly and sail, I think.


 
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 2   Rumors / Those who store their boats at Champlain Marina  on: Oct 13th, 2009, 4:46pm
Started by escape25 | Post by escape25
Have any of you read the contract for winter storage at Champlain Marina? There is very little that is required of the Marina and its staff and signifant responsibilities placed on the boat owner. I have prepared an addendum the gives some protection for the boat owner by outlining the duties and responsibilities of the Marina. I am not an attorney and would appreciate having it reviewed by anyone in the club who might be. I am also happy to share the draft amendment with other members. Just send me an email.

Ben Bosher
 
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 3   Race / Re: RC boat requirements  on: Aug 14th, 2009, 06:58am
Started by ghalsted | Post by alrussellvt
I certainly agree re. wood boats. However, we should be looking at and discussing types of boats, and not individual boats. Once we narrow down a type that suits a majority, THEN we can go looking for a boat. So, I still think a lobster type should be on the short list.

I also take serious issue with Rod's claim that the 29 footer suits 95% of races. The fact is that some large %, maybe 70%, of races are run by one person. Usually either Sarah or Charly. If there is a second person, they are best used by driving a second "mark" boat.

I can't imagine Sarah, or Charly handling a 29 foot anything by themselves, in 25 kts or not.

And again Safety should be first, not comfort, privacy, storage, price, distance from MBBC, etc.

 
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 4   Race / Re: RC boat requirements  on: Aug 14th, 2009, 06:44am
Started by ghalsted | Post by ghalsted
Lobster style boat:

http://burlington.craigslist.org/boa/1320756162.html

From emails and talking to people last night there is not much support for a wooden hull so I’ll cross this off the list. Next week we will give Marty’s boat a test run.

Feedback from Rod, Marty and other from Thursday night:

Two thumbs down on buying a wooden boat. I still say the best RC platform for us 95% of the time is the multihull. LOW maintenance should be key. But let's not suggest we pay $100 to have a second look. I don't see people lining up for test drives when I drive by but maybe I drive by Boatworks at the wrong time of day.



-----Original Message-----
From: Geoffrey W. Halsted
Some additional details about the boat:


• Built in 1964
• Hull - cedar with oak ribs. Cabin and deck are fiberglass
• Engine – 197 hp Chevy inboard
• Length – 25 feet
• Width – 8 feet
• Cabin can sleep two
• Every other year need to fill the seams and pain bottom
• Owner said the boat requires about 1 day of work each year to get ready for the season

Owner indicated that someone is coming to look at it tomorrow so it may not last. I’ll talk to you guys tonight to see if this is worth pursuing.

 
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 5   Race / Re: RC boat requirements  on: Aug 7th, 2009, 2:24pm
Started by ghalsted | Post by alrussellvt
There is another type of RC/"lobster" boat, chosen by water pro's for safety, economy, etc:

http://burlington.craigslist.org/boa/1306037077.html

A similar boat is used by our neighbors at both the moorings, and IS School.

That url will only be available for a week or two, but it's an Eastern 22. Go to Small Boat exchange on Rt 7 to see one. I can't seem to post a pic on here.

PLEASE ignore the price. It's should be the job of a committee to look beyond what's available within 1 mile of the Club. Let's look at type's, needs, and plan for the future. When we find a type we want, we can go look for one. There are hundreds, within a 200 mile radius.

Keep in mind that we now have a 18K punt, an 18K kitchen, and a 15 K roof over the front porch. So, being in a hurry to buy a boat that should last 10-15 years because it's cheap, nearby, etc. is not the best use of our time as a committee.

I, personally, will discount any opinion of "just buy it" from people who have seen one boat. It's our job to be more open minded.

Al
 
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 6   Laser / VT Laser Open 2009 NOR  on: Aug 6th, 2009, 7:58pm
Started by alrussellvt | Post by alrussellvt
2009 Laser VERMONT OPEN – MBBC Regatta
Aug 15-16
Malletts Bay Boat Club
662 Lakeshore Dr. Colchester, VT http://www.mbbc-vt.org/
Contact: Al Russell 802.793.5601 email: alrussellvt@yahoo.com
Schedule: Saturday
9-10:30 Registration (coffee bagels and juice)
10:00 Skippers Meeting
11:00 1st Race Starts
16:30 Will not start another race today.
18:00 Dinner at MBBC (BYOB)
Sunday
8:00 Coffee, Bagels, Juice
10:00 1st Race of Day
13:30 Will not start another race
14:30 awards presentation
Rules: US Sailing, ILCA Rules and Sailing Instructions, measurement may occur at any time. Lasers will have one start for Full, Radial, and 4.7, unless Radial or 4.7 numbers warrant another start. This regatta is #3 of 5 for D7 Super Series
Primary race area : Primary race area will be The Outer Malletts Bay, and the secondary area will be the Inner Bay. http://www.mbbc-vt.org/
Scoring: Low Point, one throw after five races, 2 for 8 or more
Awards: Series 1-3, Leading Junior,
Facilities and Housing: MBBC is a long established club and has hosted such prestigious events as the Laser Nationals and NE Masters and the Lightning North Americans. MBBC will host the Lightning Worlds in 2009. Launching will be from a protected sand beach. Water and snacks will be available from the RC boats, plus a barbeque on Saturday after racing.


Primary race area : Primary race area will be The Outer Malletts Bay, and the secondary area will be the Inner Bay. http://www.mbbc-vt.org/ Water and snacks will be available from the RC boats. Expect a 30-40 minute sail to the start line.
Limited housing is available with fellow competitors, as well as some nearby camping, or possibly on moored boats. Clubhouse has showers, fridge, etc. Some parking especially for trailers will be off-site. Numerous hotels are located within 3 miles, near Exit 16 of Rt. 89. Thursday and Friday arrivals can use the club facilities for practice, clubhouse is open til 9 PM . This is expected to be a 40+ Boat Regatta, and this is #5 of 6 for the D7 Championship.
Directions: Exit 16 off Rt 89, Colchester , turn North onto Rt. 7, after aprox. 1 mile, left onto Blakely at light. Straight ahead at next light, onto Lakeshore, club is on the right, aprox. ½ mile. The Club is 1.5 hours from Hanover, NH, and Montreal, and we are 3.5 hours from downtown Boston or Albany.
Fees: $30.00, Includes all snacks and Dinner Sat. Full time Student Rate - $20., extra meal tickets $10.00 (spectator boats available). Please pre-register if at all possible, so we can get the dinner count, etc.


For more information call Al Russell 802 793 5601
Mail entry to: Al Russell 23 Worchester Mt. Rd , Waterbury Center , VT 05677
or email entry form to: alrussellvt@yahoo.com

See mbbc-vt.org for local info, click on the Lightning Worlds link

 
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 7   Race / Re: RC boat requirements  on: Aug 6th, 2009, 10:08am
Started by ghalsted | Post by ghalsted
From Marty Olsen:

You are welcome to borrow my boat for a Thursday night. Frankly it is nothing more than a large version of the whaler and would gain us nothing other than a slightly drier riding platform. Most center console boats with heads are ridiculously small and are really not usable for the average person with any level of comfort or utility. I would not recommend a boat like mine for a committee boat, Fortunately, or unfortunately I'm going to keep falling back on the boat with a cabin idea. For our purposes a boat like LCYC's with an outboard would be a much better choice in terms of meeting the list of requirements we have.

 
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 8   Race / Re: RC boat requirements  on: Aug 6th, 2009, 06:03am
Started by ghalsted | Post by ghalsted
Gerry Davis had a very favorable opinion of the pontoon boat used last week for race committee. His first comment was “Just buy it!”.

Positive feedback (from Gerry and others)
• Lots of room for people and equipment
• Good visibility for RC members
• Very easy to sight the line
• The hard top provided good protection
• Fast boat
• Handled well for the conditions they were in

Negative feedback
• Windlass didn’t work
• Head is not private.
• Some concern regarding maneuverability in high wind
• Ability to assist a boat in distress


Overall seems like a good option. Several members pulled me aside last Thursday requesting/inquiring about the head facilities on the boat.

I would like to try a center console boat to compare the pontoon boat against. I am unsure which manufactures of center consoles offer built in heads, any ideas? Marty, any chance we could borrow your boat for a Thursday night?

I’m not sure there are funds available in 2009 for a boat replacement but I am still working on this. I have requested funding in the 2010 budget of $15,000.

 
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 9   Race / Re: RC boat requirements  on: Jul 23rd, 2009, 04:22am
Started by ghalsted | Post by alrussellvt
Marty's comments pasted below,

Geoff,

The boat at boat works is one that we have been taking care of for many years. several items on the boat are not worth the time to deal with. There is a windlass which DOES NOT WORK CONSISTENTLY. it has a tray for anchor line and a clutch mechnism that is an engineering disaster. The engine is an Evinrude 150 which has been well maintained over the years. If we are going to buy this boat and use it we will need to install storage lockers on the boat. I can not remember if it has full canvas to wrap around things and to keep people dry. I do not think that a boat with canvas is the way to go for us. The issue is that if you want to take the canvas down it has to have a place to be stored and it has to be stored correctly. If it is folded or rolled incorrectly it will damage the windows and make the them useless.

If we plan on using the boat in the inner bay it will work for us. In the outer bay I am not convinced that it will not rock and roll people so heavily as to make them sea sick. If the boat is going to go into the broad lake I would be concerned that it will work well in heavy seas. The third hull will help to keep the bow up and prevent the deck from getting washed over. If we are going to store radios, the horns, and any equipment which must stay dry I am concerned that without an enclosed portion of the boat we will end up with a lot of soggy equipment that does not work. My point is that if we are going to buy the boat we need to have an equipment storage plan for the boat BEFORE buying it. I just want to see us spend the money wisely and not jump before we have a plan for THIS boat.

I know that the boat is coming from Boatworks, but prior to purchase if we are going to do this I would be happy to go through the engine, controls, and systems to make sure they are up to snuff. As stated before I wouldn't even bother with the windlass, but I would like to check the engine over for some basic stuff. In the event we get to the point of potentially purchasing I can make the necessary arrangements with Brad and get things done quickly.

MartyTEXT
 
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 10   Race / Re: RC boat requirements  on: Jul 23rd, 2009, 04:22am
Started by ghalsted | Post by ghalsted
I just took a look at it and here are my observations:

Pros:
More than enough room to store equipment.
Hard top provides protection.
3rd pontoon provides additional stability.
Outboard engine = lower maintenance.
Room for a head.
Has windless.

Cons:
Very long, 29'. I'm concerned about maneuverability in high winds (docking/morning). We would probably have to keep this at the end of the morning field.
Cover needed to protect seats. Putting the cover on after each use will be a pain. There are a lot of snaps.
I have some questions about how readily this boat will be able to assist another boat in distress.
Maintenance: How will we store this? Shrink wrap may be an expensive re-occurring cost.

Would like to hear back from others who have more experience.

Thanks,
Geoff

 
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